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Ban policy change / Admin shakeup.  

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  1. 1. Ban policy change / Admin shakeup.

    • Yes, we need a butt policy change only.
    • Yes, we need an Admin disco only.
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    • Yes, we need both a butt policy change and admin disco.
    • No, i dont want either of these *state why in the comments*.

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Steamgamers community is dying, and that much is true and we all know it. This is due to most players being eventualy perminantly banned for one reason or another which is perfectly fine. HOWEVER... I think that there should be a change in policy removing the "perminantly banned" status to a maximum of 1 year bans.

 

This is due to the fact that ignorant and selfish admins (you know who you are) are holding grudges against those who they have banned for simply having a disagreement with them or downright hating them. This is discraceful and goes against your job, being an admin is not a privilage, its a job. You are here to police the servers or forums with a neutral attitude to all, EVEN IF they break rules of which you then enforce to the letter no matter how much you personaly like or dislike anybody. (Please remember admins, you are only in authority because the community put you there).

 

In short something has to change, if it be a change in the ban policy or an admin re-orginisation on who will or will not be admin.

 

I here by ask any admins who view this page to refrain from voting, you have no say in this since this is a community vote, for those who are not in authority.

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This thread is really dumb. People that are permanently banned can usually successfully appeal their bans in 1 year unless they did something really fucking stupid/are repeat retards. Also admining ain't a job bro, no one gets paid for it. This thread just sounds like a bad reason to rustle up some drama.

 

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55029

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54950

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54439

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54423

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54206

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54046

 

And that's just from the first 2 pages

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Definition of a job is not being paid to do it, it is a role in a society/community of is fufilled by you or someone else. And if you look in the ban appeals with 1 year bans, people have appealed 3-4 times even after a years ban and yet they are still not being unbanned. (of cource there are people that repeatedly break the rules such as making multiple accounts to do crap, but people who come back after 1-2 years are having their appeals denied due to admin hate and intolerance which needs to stop).

 

P.S Btw if you have nothing useful to post in this thread then dont.

 

Example:

http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54577 - He is being condemned for things he has done in the past to judge him on who he is now. Quote from XeNo

"Good fucking luck. You better write the most sympathetic story of your life if you expect to be unbanned. I mean tears need to be formed and creating a flowing river of anguish before we even consider making a thread in the AO section to discuss your unban. "

That language useage is also unacceptable, its not a joke. Some of these people sincerely want to be unbanned and acting in a childish way commenting that you best make an amazing 'Story' for admins to read is discraceful.

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Definition of a job is not being paid to do it, it is a role in a society/community of is fufilled by you or someone else. And if you look in the ban appeals with 1 year bans, people have appealed 3-4 times even after a years ban and yet they are still not being unbanned. (of cource there are people that repeatedly break the rules such as making multiple accounts to do crap, but people who come back after 1-2 years are having their appeals denied due to admin hate and intolerance which needs to stop).

 

P.S Btw if you have nothing useful to post in this thread then dont.

 

Bullshit alert. Examples please.

 

"http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54577[/url] - He is being condemned for things he has done in the past to judge him on who he is now. Quote from XeNo

"Good fucking luck. You better write the most sympathetic story of your life if you expect to be unbanned. I mean tears need to be formed and creating a flowing river of anguish before we even consider making a thread in the AO section to discuss your unban. "

That language useage is also unacceptable, its not a joke. Some of these people sincerely want to be unbanned and acting in a childish way commenting that you best make an amazing 'Story' for admins to read is discraceful."

 

Guy has six bans. You only need three to be permed. Which basically means he's already had more than one chance to not be permed. Don't really see how that is "intolerance and injustice(lol)", if he's had more chances than most members of the community gets. Also if you use examples instead of example, you need more than one.

 

Edit: He was also caught freekilling at several other communities which is why no one knew he changed.

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1) Ban system is fine .

2 Admins get their power from other admins.

3) If an admin is abusing their powers then you are free to get proof and file a complaint .

4) All permabans are reviewed by AO+ ( senior members of the staff ) . If they dislike someone then it is for good reason - being butthurt by someone is not a valid reason .

 

If one AO+ gives out a BS ban then the person can appeal and they can be unbanned ( if a majority agrees that the ban was not okay ) .

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Bullshit alert. Examples please.

 

"http://www.steam-gamers.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54577[/url] - He is being condemned for things he has done in the past to judge him on who he is now. Quote from XeNo

"Good fucking luck. You better write the most sympathetic story of your life if you expect to be unbanned. I mean tears need to be formed and creating a flowing river of anguish before we even consider making a thread in the AO section to discuss your unban. "

That language useage is also unacceptable, its not a joke. Some of these people sincerely want to be unbanned and acting in a childish way commenting that you best make an amazing 'Story' for admins to read is discraceful."

 

Guy has six bans. You only need three to be permed. Which basically means he's already had more than one chance to not be permed. Don't really see how that is "intolerance and injustice(lol)", if he's had more chances than most members of the community gets. Also if you use examples instead of example, you need more than one.

 

Edit: He was also caught freekilling at several other communities which is why no one knew he changed, rofl.

 

And so apparently we go about judging people on how many bans they have? So what if someone comes back after 4 years and has 7 bans, what then? What if they have entirely changed and have become mature and sensible within communities? Yet you dont know that because they have not been able to come back since you've shunned him due to him having multiple bans 'Chances'.

 

BTW multiple bans are not chances, they are punishments. Chances are given when you forgive someone and do NOT give them a ban. And everyone deserves AT THE LEAST two chances. This is about moral judgement, not discriminative judgement.

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And so apparently we go about judging people on how many bans they have? So what if someone comes back after 4 years and has 7 bans, what then? What if they have entirely changed and have become mature and sensible within communities? Yet you dont know that because they have not been able to come back since you've shunned him due to him having multiple bans 'Chances'.

 

BTW multiple bans are not chances, they are punishments. Chances are given when you forgive someone and do NOT give them a ban. And everyone deserves AT THE LEAST two chances. This is about moral judgement, not discriminative judgement.

 

Lolwat, yeah multiple bans before perms are multiple chances, when the punishment is over, you are expected to have learned from your lesson. If you don't, then clearly there is something wrong and the punishment needs to extend.

 

"Yet you dont know that because they have not been able to come back since you've shunned him due to him having multiple bans 'Chances'"

 

Like I said, he was caught freekilling in multiple communities, so Idk what you're crying about again.

 

4 years =/= 8 months

 

Also most people that come back from perms usually come back with a "one more quick fuck up and you're back to being permed" situation so it's more like he had 4 chances.

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